{"id":3439,"date":"2018-11-08T04:10:06","date_gmt":"2018-11-08T04:10:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/?p=3439"},"modified":"2018-11-11T19:18:08","modified_gmt":"2018-11-11T19:18:08","slug":"antique-louis-sullivan-sullivanesque-panel-arrived","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/2018\/11\/antique-louis-sullivan-sullivanesque-panel-arrived\/","title":{"rendered":"Antique Louis Sullivan &#8220;Sullivanesque&#8221; panel arrived"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>My purchased piece of Sullivanesque came today, from the 1936 Thomas A. Edison school, Hammond Indiana. The design is such that it could be situated either way shown in the first 2 photos, but hard to tell which way it was originally meant to be installed and was, it looks good either way it&#8217;s rotated, and the impressed numbers on one surface which I remember from the pieces in NYC were always on the TOP side. So which way did this go&#8230; it&#8217;s easier than it might seem to figure it out <span class=\"text_exposed_show\">even without aphoto of the school to tell- the last photo up close tells the whole story, that black from coal soot in rain over decades would have stained the top surfaces not the bottoms, so the 2nd photo with the two small squares at the top divided into 4 smaller squares is the correct orientation.<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text_exposed_show\">\n<p>The back was full of mortar and brick fragments, I removed most of it but since there is an old crack a few inches long I decided to leave that one compartment as is to continue to reinforce it.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/2018\/11\/antique-louis-sullivan-sullivanesque-panel-arrived\/screen-shot-6-2\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3441\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-3441\" src=\"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Screen-Shot-6.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"870\" height=\"828\" srcset=\"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Screen-Shot-6.jpg 870w, https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Screen-Shot-6-300x286.jpg 300w, https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Screen-Shot-6-768x731.jpg 768w, https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Screen-Shot-6-315x300.jpg 315w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 870px) 100vw, 870px\" \/><\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/2018\/11\/antique-louis-sullivan-sullivanesque-panel-arrived\/screen-shot-7\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3442\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-3442\" src=\"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Screen-Shot-7.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"733\" height=\"717\" srcset=\"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Screen-Shot-7.jpg 733w, https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Screen-Shot-7-300x293.jpg 300w, https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Screen-Shot-7-307x300.jpg 307w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 733px) 100vw, 733px\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/2018\/11\/antique-louis-sullivan-sullivanesque-panel-arrived\/screen-shot-6-3\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3443\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-3443\" src=\"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Screen-Shot-6-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"740\" height=\"684\" srcset=\"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Screen-Shot-6-1.jpg 740w, https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Screen-Shot-6-1-300x277.jpg 300w, https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Screen-Shot-6-1-325x300.jpg 325w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 740px) 100vw, 740px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/2018\/11\/antique-louis-sullivan-sullivanesque-panel-arrived\/screen-shot-6-4\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3444\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-3444\" src=\"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Screen-Shot-6-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"678\" height=\"720\" srcset=\"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Screen-Shot-6-2.jpg 678w, https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Screen-Shot-6-2-283x300.jpg 283w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 678px) 100vw, 678px\" \/><\/a>Nice thing is, this terracotta block has it&#8217;s original depth, unfortunately it was cut out from a double panel that comprised two of these squares. Maybe the other half was damaged, maybe some misguided fool decided to try to cut the longer panel in half to make two smaller ones, who knows&#8230; but the damage is permanent on this 80+ year old artifact.<\/p>\n<p>While I&#8217;m on this topic, there is unfortunately one misguided fool in Chicago who lately seems to be offering original so called &#8220;museum quality&#8221; pieces like this that he arbitrarily decides to CUT OFF the so called &#8220;dead weight&#8221; in the back with a power saw or similar in order to reduce the WEIGHT and make it &#8220;easier&#8221; to hang on the wall!<\/p>\n<p>Good grief! he permanently destroys hand-made 80+ year old valuable artifacts like this just to remove all of MAYBE five pounds of weight off a piece like this that weighs about 40 pounds, and in the process he destroys the strength and structural integrity of the piece by cutting the back and leaving only about an inch thick left of just the front, <strong>stupid! stupid! stupid!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Another issue is these hand-pressed terracotta artifacts all have incized or impressed numbers and letters on them- the very part the fool cuts off with power tools! those letters and numbers are part of the original setting\/contract\/mold numbering system used to install the pieces in the wall in the proper order on the blueprints, it positively connects the artifact to a specific unique building and maker, think of it like a serial number.<\/p>\n<p>Removing a lousy five or ten pounds off a sculpture that weighs 40 or 50 pounds is useless and makes absolutely no difference for hanging it or displaying it, in fact this piece is self standing BECAUSE it has it&#8217;s full depth, once that is cut away it no longer can do that and all it takes then is tipping or falling over once and it will break into multiple pieces and be destroyed.<\/p>\n<p>If you want something to hang on the wall, do it RIGHT with the proper anchor or bracket,\u00a0 or buy a reproduction to do that with it, don&#8217;t destroy or support someone who destroys these artifacts like this just to hang it on a wall or shave five pounds off it!<\/p>\n<p>So what numbers am I speaking of on these pieces?<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s an example on a keystone I own<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/2018\/11\/antique-louis-sullivan-sullivanesque-panel-arrived\/43287-lion-terracotta-keystone-15\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3445\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-3445\" src=\"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/43287-lion-terracotta-keystone-15-1024x794.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"940\" height=\"729\" srcset=\"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/43287-lion-terracotta-keystone-15-1024x794.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/43287-lion-terracotta-keystone-15-300x233.jpg 300w, https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/43287-lion-terracotta-keystone-15-768x595.jpg 768w, https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/43287-lion-terracotta-keystone-15-387x300.jpg 387w, https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/43287-lion-terracotta-keystone-15.jpg 1500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px\" \/><\/a>Another example on another keystone I own;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/2018\/11\/antique-louis-sullivan-sullivanesque-panel-arrived\/top-view-keystone\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3446\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-3446\" src=\"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/top-view-keystone.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/top-view-keystone.jpg 900w, https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/top-view-keystone-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/top-view-keystone-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/top-view-keystone-450x300.jpg 450w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" \/><\/a>And lastly;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/2018\/11\/antique-louis-sullivan-sullivanesque-panel-arrived\/konica-minolta-digital-camera-76\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3447\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-3447\" src=\"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/3-1024x547.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"940\" height=\"502\" srcset=\"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/3-1024x547.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/3-300x160.jpg 300w, https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/3-768x410.jpg 768w, https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/3-500x267.jpg 500w, https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/3.jpg 1748w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>When the so called &#8220;dead weight&#8221; of\u00a0 sawing 2 or 3 inches off the back of one of these artifacts is done, these historic, identifying numbers are lost forever. No museum I ever know of has ever altered artifacts in any destructive way like that, and calling any such wrecked artifacts &#8220;museum quality&#8221; is blatantly false advertising and destroying historic antiques on a whim, don&#8217;t be part of that destruction!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>My purchased piece of Sullivanesque came today, from the 1936 Thomas A. Edison school, Hammond Indiana. The design is such that it could be situated either way shown in the first 2 photos, but hard to tell which way it was originally meant to be installed and was, it looks good either way it&#8217;s rotated, and the impressed numbers on one surface which I remember from the pieces in NYC were always on the TOP side. So which way did this go&#8230; it&#8217;s easier than it might seem to figure it out even without aphoto of the school to tell- the last photo up close tells the whole story, that black from coal soot in rain over decades would have stained the top surfaces not the bottoms, so the 2nd photo with the two small squares at the top divided into 4 smaller squares is the correct orientation. The back was full of mortar and brick fragments, I removed most of it but since there is an old crack a few inches long I decided to leave that one compartment as is to continue to reinforce it. Nice thing is, this terracotta block has it&#8217;s original depth, unfortunately it was cut out from a double panel that comprised two of these squares. Maybe the other half was damaged, maybe some misguided fool decided to try to cut the longer panel in half to make two smaller ones, who knows&#8230; but the damage is permanent on this 80+ year old artifact. While I&#8217;m on this topic, there is unfortunately one misguided fool in Chicago who lately seems to be offering original so called &#8220;museum quality&#8221; pieces like this that he arbitrarily decides to CUT OFF the so called &#8220;dead weight&#8221; in the back with a power saw or similar in order to reduce the WEIGHT and make it &#8220;easier&#8221; to hang on the wall! Good grief! he permanently destroys hand-made 80+ year old valuable artifacts like this just to remove all of MAYBE five pounds of weight off a piece like this that weighs about 40 pounds, and in the process he destroys the strength and structural integrity of the piece by cutting the back and leaving only about an inch thick left of just the front, stupid! stupid! stupid! Another issue is these hand-pressed terracotta artifacts all have incized or impressed numbers and letters on them- the very part the fool cuts off with power tools! those letters and numbers are part of the original setting\/contract\/mold numbering system used to install the pieces in the wall in the proper order on the blueprints, it positively connects the artifact to a specific unique building and maker, think of it like a serial number. Removing a lousy five or ten pounds off a sculpture that weighs 40 or 50 pounds is useless and makes absolutely no difference for hanging it or displaying it, in fact this piece is self standing BECAUSE it has it&#8217;s full depth, once that is cut away it no longer can do that and all it takes then is tipping or falling over once and it will break into multiple pieces and be destroyed. If you want something to hang on the wall, do it RIGHT with the proper anchor or bracket,\u00a0 or buy a reproduction to do that with it, don&#8217;t destroy or support someone who destroys these artifacts like this just to hang it on a wall or shave five pounds off it! So what numbers am I speaking of on these pieces? Here&#8217;s an example on a keystone I own Another example on another keystone I own; And lastly; When the so called &#8220;dead weight&#8221; of\u00a0 sawing 2 or 3 inches off the back of one of these artifacts is done, these historic, identifying numbers are lost forever. No museum I ever know of has ever altered artifacts in any destructive way like that, and calling any such wrecked artifacts &#8220;museum quality&#8221; is blatantly false advertising and destroying historic antiques on a whim, don&#8217;t be part of that destruction!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[18,8,10,19,17,11,20],"class_list":["post-3439","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-sculptures","tag-architectural-artifacts","tag-george-elmslie","tag-louis-sullivan","tag-morton-school-hammond-indiana","tag-museum-quality-terracotta","tag-sullivanesque","tag-thomas-a-edison-school-hammond-indiana"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Antique Louis Sullivan &quot;Sullivanesque&quot; panel arrived - Victorian &amp; Art Deco Architectural Sculptures<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/2018\/11\/antique-louis-sullivan-sullivanesque-panel-arrived\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Antique Louis Sullivan &quot;Sullivanesque&quot; panel arrived - Victorian &amp; Art Deco Architectural Sculptures\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"My purchased piece of Sullivanesque came today, from the 1936 Thomas A. Edison school, Hammond Indiana. The design is such that it could be situated either way shown in the first 2 photos, but hard to tell which way it was originally meant to be installed and was, it looks good either way it&#8217;s rotated, and the impressed numbers on one surface which I remember from the pieces in NYC were always on the TOP side. So which way did this go&#8230; it&#8217;s easier than it might seem to figure it out even without aphoto of the school to tell- the last photo up close tells the whole story, that black from coal soot in rain over decades would have stained the top surfaces not the bottoms, so the 2nd photo with the two small squares at the top divided into 4 smaller squares is the correct orientation. The back was full of mortar and brick fragments, I removed most of it but since there is an old crack a few inches long I decided to leave that one compartment as is to continue to reinforce it. Nice thing is, this terracotta block has it&#8217;s original depth, unfortunately it was cut out from a double panel that comprised two of these squares. Maybe the other half was damaged, maybe some misguided fool decided to try to cut the longer panel in half to make two smaller ones, who knows&#8230; but the damage is permanent on this 80+ year old artifact. While I&#8217;m on this topic, there is unfortunately one misguided fool in Chicago who lately seems to be offering original so called &#8220;museum quality&#8221; pieces like this that he arbitrarily decides to CUT OFF the so called &#8220;dead weight&#8221; in the back with a power saw or similar in order to reduce the WEIGHT and make it &#8220;easier&#8221; to hang on the wall! Good grief! he permanently destroys hand-made 80+ year old valuable artifacts like this just to remove all of MAYBE five pounds of weight off a piece like this that weighs about 40 pounds, and in the process he destroys the strength and structural integrity of the piece by cutting the back and leaving only about an inch thick left of just the front, stupid! stupid! stupid! Another issue is these hand-pressed terracotta artifacts all have incized or impressed numbers and letters on them- the very part the fool cuts off with power tools! those letters and numbers are part of the original setting\/contract\/mold numbering system used to install the pieces in the wall in the proper order on the blueprints, it positively connects the artifact to a specific unique building and maker, think of it like a serial number. 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Edison school, Hammond Indiana. The design is such that it could be situated either way shown in the first 2 photos, but hard to tell which way it was originally meant to be installed and was, it looks good either way it&#8217;s rotated, and the impressed numbers on one surface which I remember from the pieces in NYC were always on the TOP side. So which way did this go&#8230; it&#8217;s easier than it might seem to figure it out even without aphoto of the school to tell- the last photo up close tells the whole story, that black from coal soot in rain over decades would have stained the top surfaces not the bottoms, so the 2nd photo with the two small squares at the top divided into 4 smaller squares is the correct orientation. The back was full of mortar and brick fragments, I removed most of it but since there is an old crack a few inches long I decided to leave that one compartment as is to continue to reinforce it. Nice thing is, this terracotta block has it&#8217;s original depth, unfortunately it was cut out from a double panel that comprised two of these squares. Maybe the other half was damaged, maybe some misguided fool decided to try to cut the longer panel in half to make two smaller ones, who knows&#8230; but the damage is permanent on this 80+ year old artifact. While I&#8217;m on this topic, there is unfortunately one misguided fool in Chicago who lately seems to be offering original so called &#8220;museum quality&#8221; pieces like this that he arbitrarily decides to CUT OFF the so called &#8220;dead weight&#8221; in the back with a power saw or similar in order to reduce the WEIGHT and make it &#8220;easier&#8221; to hang on the wall! Good grief! he permanently destroys hand-made 80+ year old valuable artifacts like this just to remove all of MAYBE five pounds of weight off a piece like this that weighs about 40 pounds, and in the process he destroys the strength and structural integrity of the piece by cutting the back and leaving only about an inch thick left of just the front, stupid! stupid! stupid! Another issue is these hand-pressed terracotta artifacts all have incized or impressed numbers and letters on them- the very part the fool cuts off with power tools! those letters and numbers are part of the original setting\/contract\/mold numbering system used to install the pieces in the wall in the proper order on the blueprints, it positively connects the artifact to a specific unique building and maker, think of it like a serial number. Removing a lousy five or ten pounds off a sculpture that weighs 40 or 50 pounds is useless and makes absolutely no difference for hanging it or displaying it, in fact this piece is self standing BECAUSE it has it&#8217;s full depth, once that is cut away it no longer can do that and all it takes then is tipping or falling over once and it will break into multiple pieces and be destroyed. If you want something to hang on the wall, do it RIGHT with the proper anchor or bracket,\u00a0 or buy a reproduction to do that with it, don&#8217;t destroy or support someone who destroys these artifacts like this just to hang it on a wall or shave five pounds off it! So what numbers am I speaking of on these pieces? Here&#8217;s an example on a keystone I own Another example on another keystone I own; And lastly; When the so called &#8220;dead weight&#8221; of\u00a0 sawing 2 or 3 inches off the back of one of these artifacts is done, these historic, identifying numbers are lost forever. No museum I ever know of has ever altered artifacts in any destructive way like that, and calling any such wrecked artifacts &#8220;museum quality&#8221; is blatantly false advertising and destroying historic antiques on a whim, don&#8217;t be part of that destruction!","og_url":"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/2018\/11\/antique-louis-sullivan-sullivanesque-panel-arrived\/","og_site_name":"Victorian &amp; Art Deco Architectural Sculptures","article_published_time":"2018-11-08T04:10:06+00:00","article_modified_time":"2018-11-11T19:18:08+00:00","og_image":[{"url":"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Screen-Shot-6.jpg","type":"","width":"","height":""}],"author":"Admin","twitter_card":"summary_large_image","twitter_misc":{"Written by":"Admin","Est. reading time":"3 minutes"},"schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"Article","@id":"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/2018\/11\/antique-louis-sullivan-sullivanesque-panel-arrived\/#article","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/2018\/11\/antique-louis-sullivan-sullivanesque-panel-arrived\/"},"author":{"name":"Admin","@id":"https:\/\/randallwolff.com\/wordpress\/#\/schema\/person\/80655524fc6621a8dd496877179e2248"},"headline":"Antique Louis Sullivan &#8220;Sullivanesque&#8221; 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